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Label Shop Live

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 2:01 pm
by Frank Burgos
Hi everybody,

As much as we talk about shop documents, controlling the process and all that stuff, I thought I share where I am with a project I'm close to done with.

There is no sound on the video, intentionally, and I did not speed it up, but I moved quickly in the interest of time. It's not a demo. It's a brief presentation so you get the idea.

I'd love your input. If you have ideas about what you'd like to see in this, please let me know. I am making it for industry and want to offer what it wants and needs in a system.

Happy printing!


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Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:36 pm
by longtimefan
Just real fast. I was looking on my phone so hard to see it all.


Ticket- is there a spot for dryer temps, speed, what treat pen is used?

Does this software have a spot for web path of the press?

Again, I’ll get in office in am and look at it closer on big monitor

Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:51 pm
by Frank Burgos
Hi Longtime,

There's is a spot for dynes, but not the pen. I'll add that.

Press speed, yes, and I'll make it clearer, because it just says "Speed", right now.

Web path is an excellent idea! I'll do something about that and provide an update.

Many thanks

Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 12:23 am
by longtimefan
Rewind chart or what customer wants for rw

Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:51 am
by longtimefan
Spot for seals in consumables

Is there a spot for inventory count?

Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2024 1:07 pm
by Frank Burgos
There is not a spot for inventory count. I am going to add it. I've got a running list, so far:

Indication of dyne pen to use on treat tests
Mechanism for inventory count, including end seals
Rewind chart for what the customer wants
Place for press speed
Place for web path
Places for dryer temps

I'll get to work on this and update you.


Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:15 am
by Frank Burgos
I have added features to Label Shop Live in response to longtimefan's dyne pen request. I also incorporated wind direction information.

There is a place for press speed.

On the dryer question, I have only one place for a dryer temperature. How many temperature settings are needed for the average narrow web press?

There are also UV lamp settings, so I'll add that, too.

I'll add a way for the operator to see the web path.

Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 10:41 pm
by longtimefan
Is this only for narrow web?

If wide web there is the over head ovens and bcd

Corona treater settings

Die pressure

Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:39 am
by Frank Burgos
We've had a wide web version in live production for two years, managing twelve pieces of equipment: 1 + 2 + 3 + 6 machines in the workflow of four types, not just the press. Operators work from tablets. There's a provision for dryer temperature for the press, but just one.

For the industry at large, we're focusing on the narrow web press, for now. Going forward, we will add slitters, rewinders, fan-folders, turret-rewinders, stackers, etc., etc., just like we did with wide web, but for the narrow web industry.

We'll provide the user with a few checkboxes and name fields, so they can decide how many and what to call them.

We'll add corona treat setting. That's a good one. UV lamp settings, too.

I'll share the results. Many thanks

Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 1:18 pm
by Frank Burgos
AS for BCD, this image shows part of the table that stores cylinders, but you only interact with what you need to see in the program, depending on where in the program you are.

To be clear, shown are calculated BCD values, based on specified pitch, tape and plate. However, there will be a provision for actual measurements during periodic inspections that will show actual BCD and their variances from theoretical.
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Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:50 pm
by longtimefan

BCD= between color dryers

Re: Label Shop Live

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:11 pm
by Frank Burgos
I agree! I never noticed that both things share an acronym. Wow. I'm sincerely shocked. I love etymology and all kinds of word things.

I like the idea and it will be incorporated and I'll and share.

Many, many thanks.

For those who understandably haven't heard of "BCD", it can also mean the diameter of a plate cylinder, when it's bare of plate or tape, or "bare cylinder diameter". It's an important parameter when you get into high-quality printing, where discrepancies in what it should be and what it might be can mean that your print looks good or bad, to keep it real.